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Unfastened Belts
What would be gained if all people "understood shapes", anyway?
realize that their surroundings hold obtuse power over them by unconscious osmosis
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:26 PM
Now this last post I can vibe much more with :)
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and art and media has the same patterns over and over again in shapes, and has for decades
7:27 PM
we're in the era of curating content so I wouldn't be surprised if this mass suspicion eventually cropped up
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:27 PM
Wow art uses shaped patterns?! Omg someone call the Illuminati
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on a more serious note there was somebody coming along in here wondering why certain swords appear over and over again in games and media, always with the same connotations
7:28 PM
so I think we're not far from realizing that in a grander and more all-encompassing form in the future
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:29 PM
gasps I guess that means people... really like swords 😳
7:29 PM
Does the CIA know about this?
7:29 PM
If not you should tell them!
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for example its what makes this a demon sword over and over again merely due to the extra mass at the poles
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:31 PM
It all makes so much sense now 😳
7:31 PM
Lol sorry Ill stop now
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demon sword
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demon sword
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demon sword
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:31 PM
My mind = blown
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spiky shapes = evil
7:32 PM
round shapes = good
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:32 PM
Im telling you dude. Call the CIA, this could be important
7:33 PM
You should mention your friend's dream, too
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 7:33 PM
marissa please don't enable him
7:33 PM
he probably has an episode
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its alright its funny
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 7:33 PM
ah ok!
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Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 7:34 PM
Lol and I said I would stop too. Sorry
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I got to at least show why its important
7:36 PM
gotta commit now
7:36 PM
putting the mass at the poles in this picture means having a large root chakra and mind chakra
7:37 PM
stimulated root chakra + stimulated mind chakra means having your mind on destroying things
7:37 PM
but having the mass more in the center correlates to the heart chakra
7:37 PM
thats why we perceive the demon sword as evil
7:38 PM
and it shows up in all things, all shapes, not just the demon sword
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alright there, you've encouraged me now I'll stop
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 7:39 PM
yaya i'm sorry to ask it, but do you have prescribed medication?
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ay come on this is the metaphysics channel
7:39 PM
don't be like that
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 7:39 PM
yes but i'm just worried
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/10/2021 7:40 PM
Put pyrite on your solar plexus. Most likely you'll start to feel a flare of heat with a "dense" quality, like painless lava being poured into you.
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I don't use or condone the usage of crystals though, that's where I draw the line
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/10/2021 7:40 PM
Eh? That's a new one
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sorry dude
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/10/2021 7:40 PM
Well, you're missing out
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crystalhug
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hydrix95
I don't use or condone the usage of crystals though, that's where I draw the line
Unfastened Belts 8/10/2021 8:04 PM
How come?
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Unfastened Belts
How come?
seems to me that they don't conduct better than your favorite t-shirt, and even if they did their energy doesn't translate into the physical very well
8:43 PM
I believe the power they hold is symbolic not literal
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Lol Leiko pulled the "are you off your meds" card
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If you're genuinely looking for a supernatural model for how shape and positioning effects things, what you're describing does indeed exist. That's what Feng Shui and Chinese alchemy entails. What I would say about colour and shape is that we very much decide culturally what these colours mean, not the other way around. Red is considerably less used as "evil" in China, for example. In terms of shape there are all kinds of memes and theories one could point to with shape. When using these things for magic, it's always important to remember that correlation does not imply causation. Memes (in the traditional sense rather than the memetic sense, amusingly), do cause specific emotional responses, but they are caused by the meme, not the [thing you associate with magic here], having symbolic and therefore hypnotic power over you.
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Yeah exactly None of this is wilder than feng shui to me
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Zen
If you're genuinely looking for a supernatural model for how shape and positioning effects things, what you're describing does indeed exist. That's what Feng Shui and Chinese alchemy entails. What I would say about colour and shape is that we very much decide culturally what these colours mean, not the other way around. Red is considerably less used as "evil" in China, for example. In terms of shape there are all kinds of memes and theories one could point to with shape. When using these things for magic, it's always important to remember that correlation does not imply causation. Memes (in the traditional sense rather than the memetic sense, amusingly), do cause specific emotional responses, but they are caused by the meme, not the [thing you associate with magic here], having symbolic and therefore hypnotic power over you.
that's a pretty good analogy, but saying the color holds no real basis goes against chakras as a whole, as yellow is definitely joy and purple is definitely cerebral/mental. I've made a lot of efforts to ensure that I'm not just believing their positioning blindly but rather go on my own interactions with the different chakras
8:51 PM
for example, I can definitely say that focusing on joy and solar plexus/yellow has made me more outgoing with better control over my emotions and what personality I choose to show. Before I had a tight lump in the center of my chest and I was considerably more negative
8:54 PM
I believe its some kind of feedback loop and we can also perceive it in reverse
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Yellow is not universally synonymous with happiness. It is often used for greed, for regality (it's the royal purple of china), and divinity in christianity. It is the objectively most striking colour in the spectrum in terms of how bright it is.
8:54 PM
the last of those conflicting directly with the chakra model - divinity is the crown.
8:55 PM
Also your chakra image is wrong, the sacral chakra is orange
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personally I don't really use the crown in my view of it
8:55 PM
but surely you must agree that yellow stands for being bright and happy like the sun
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looks at someone with jaundice
8:56 PM
No.
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hydrix95
seems to me that they don't conduct better than your favorite t-shirt, and even if they did their energy doesn't translate into the physical very well
Abvieon {Alex} 8/10/2021 8:56 PM
I've never held a T-shirt that produced a buzzing sensation. But crystals? Almost every one. shrugblob
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I've often seen it used for pestilence.
8:56 PM
Decay
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red means fire
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No, fire is red.
8:56 PM
there's a difference.
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that's probably the origin of our disagreement, where I view red as a fiery color and yellow meaning bright like the sun
8:57 PM
I view it on an emotional level but you view it strictly materialistically
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So you think universally red is a passionate colour?
8:57 PM
That's a western ideal.
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In the east it's distinctly happiness.
8:58 PM
again, conflicting with your model about yellow.
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surely there's many objective and fair tests on the matter of what colors invoke what emotions (edited)
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looking up colour psychology as we speak
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widely used in marketing and branding e.g. influencing people at the unconscious level
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Blue (Nīla): The Spirit of Universal Compassion Yellow (Pīta): The Middle Way Red (Lohita): The Blessings of Practice — achievement, wisdom, virtue, fortune and dignity White (Odāta): The Purity of Dhamma — leading to liberation, timeless Orange (Manjesta): The Wisdom of the Buddha’s teachings The sixth vertical band, on the fly, is made up of a combination of rectangular bands of the five other colours, and represents a compound of the other five colours in the aura’s spectrum. This compound colour is referred to as the Truth of the Buddha’s teaching Pabbhassara (‘essence of light’). A buddhist colour comparison
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Zen
If you're genuinely looking for a supernatural model for how shape and positioning effects things, what you're describing does indeed exist. That's what Feng Shui and Chinese alchemy entails. What I would say about colour and shape is that we very much decide culturally what these colours mean, not the other way around. Red is considerably less used as "evil" in China, for example. In terms of shape there are all kinds of memes and theories one could point to with shape. When using these things for magic, it's always important to remember that correlation does not imply causation. Memes (in the traditional sense rather than the memetic sense, amusingly), do cause specific emotional responses, but they are caused by the meme, not the [thing you associate with magic here], having symbolic and therefore hypnotic power over you.
Deleted User 8/10/2021 9:01 PM
yes, in china red doesn't mean evil at all, quite the opposite! it symbolises luck, joy, and happiness (edited)
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Notice that red is actually wise rather than impulsive.
9:02 PM
Yellow refers to the middle way, Buddhism itself. I wouldn't really describe Buddhism as fundamentally relating to joy.
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I think the difference is you can either focus on feeling what ideals it brings to mind or the color itself. You can either view the color intellectually or emotionally
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Y'all are special pleading now.
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there's a difference between warm and cool colors emotionally speaking
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Yes. I didn't say colour didn't have an emotional impact, colour psychology exists. But you're making a statement that colour has a fixed effect. It does not.
9:05 PM
Colour is culture subjective
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 9:05 PM
warm and cool colors are part of color theory, i don't think people would even recognise it if they weren't told which is warm and which is cold
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It's linked with the ideas of that culture.
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 9:06 PM
color is not only culture subjective but also education perspective
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which color is cold and which one is warm to you yaya?
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most people following the "mainstream" understanding would say left one is warm because it's yellow
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but the deeper color theory would say that the right one is warmer because it's more saturated cyan than the yellow is
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if you were told that, that would change the emotion/feel of the temperature about the color
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depends on additive or subtractive
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Deleted User 8/10/2021 9:08 PM
additive or subtractive has nothing to do with warmth
9:09 PM
it's same with some cultures not having names for specific colors, they don't "recognise" them
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russian for example doesn't have a colloquial name for pink, they call it red
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and they don't feel the difference between those two colors
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it's same with blue/green
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in the past european languages didn't have separate colors
9:09 PM
that changed the perception , to them the color was the same
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Yeah, the whole freaky Greeks didn't have a blue thing.
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